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  • John MCGUIRE

    Male 1766 - Bef 1840  (73 years)


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    • Name John MCGUIRE  [1

      • This individual is the son of James "Blue Lick" McGuire.
      Born 1766  [1
      Gender Male 
      Census 1800  Clark County, Kentucky Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
      Residence in 1800 for Tax Rolls 
      1800 Kentucky Tax Rolls McGuire
      1800 Kentucky Tax Rolls McGuire
      Includes several McGuire names including John McGuire of Montgomery County and John McGuire of Clark County
      Census 1810  Greenup County, Kentucky Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
      Residence for 1810 Censu 
      • Name: John McGuire

        Home in 1810 (City, County, State) Greenup, Kentucky

        Free White Persons - Males - Under 10 1
        Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 15 2
        Free White Persons - Males - 26 thru 44 1 (John)
        Free White Persons - Females - Under 10 4
        Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 15 1
        Free White Persons - Females - 26 thru 44 1 (wife)
        Number of All Other Free Persons 10
        Number of Household Members Under 16 8
        Number of Household Members Over 25 2
        Number of Household Members 10
        [3]
      1810 Census for John McGuire in Greenup County, Kentucky
      1810 Census for John McGuire in Greenup County, Kentucky
      Census 1820  Greenup County, Kentucky Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
      Residence for 1820 Census 

      • Name John Mc Guire

        Home in 1820 (City, County, State) Greenup, Kentucky
        Enumeration Date August 7, 1820
        Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 18 1
        Free White Persons - Males - 26 thru 44 1 (John)
        Free White Persons - Females - Under 10 1
        Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 15 3
        Free White Persons - Females - 16 thru 25 1
        Free White Persons - Females - 45 and over 1 (wife)
        Number of Persons - Engaged in Agriculture 2
        Free White Persons - Under 16 4
        Free White Persons - Over 25 2
        Total Free White Persons 7
        Total All Persons - White, Slaves, Colored, Other 7
        [4]
      1820 Census for John McGuire Family in Greenup County, Kentucky
      1820 Census for John McGuire Family in Greenup County, Kentucky
      Census 1830  Greenup County, Kentucky Find all individuals with events at this location  [7
      Residence for 1830 Census 

      • Name John McGuire

        Home in 1830 (City, County, State) Greenup, Kentucky

        Free White Persons - Males - 5 thru 9 3
        Free White Persons - Males - 60 thru 69 1 (John)
        Free White Persons - Females - 5 thru 9 1
        Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 14 1
        Free White Persons - Females - 20 thru 29 1
        Free White Persons - Females - 70 thru 79 1
        Free White Persons - Under 20 5
        Free White Persons - 20 thru 49 1
        Total Free White Persons 8
        Total - All Persons (Free White, Slaves, Free Colored) 8
        [6]
      1830 Census for John McGuire in Greenup County, Kentucky
      1830 Census for John McGuire in Greenup County, Kentucky
      Died Before 1840  Greenup County, Kentucky Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
      • I cannot find John McGuire listed in any Greenup County census data for 1840, so I am assuming that he had died.
      Person ID I7324  Blecha/McDaniel
      Last Modified 21 Aug 2016 

      Father James MCGUIRE,   b. 1734, Orange County or Montgomery Co. Virginia or Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 18 Aug 1782, Battle Of Blue Licks, Fayette Co., KY Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 48 years) 
      Mother Margaret Elizabeth BLACK,   b. 1736, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1805, Beattyville, Lee, Kentucky, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 69 years) 
      Married 1755  [8
      Family ID F1624  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

      Family UNKNOWN,   b. Abt 1766,   d. Before 1830  (Age ~ 63 years) 
      Last Modified 20 Aug 2016 
      Family ID F3413  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    • Event Map
      Link to Google MapsCensus - Residence in 1800 for Tax Rolls - 1800 - Clark County, Kentucky Link to Google Earth
      Link to Google MapsCensus - Residence for 1810 Censu - 1810 - Greenup County, Kentucky Link to Google Earth
      Link to Google MapsCensus - Residence for 1820 Census - 1820 - Greenup County, Kentucky Link to Google Earth
      Link to Google MapsCensus - Residence for 1830 Census - 1830 - Greenup County, Kentucky Link to Google Earth
      Link to Google MapsDied - Before 1840 - Greenup County, Kentucky Link to Google Earth
       = Link to Google Earth 

    • Documents
      Relocation of McGuire Graves in 1889
      Relocation of McGuire Graves in 1889
      From "The Richmond Climax", Aug. 7, 1889
      From Newspapers.com
      Found by John Benoit in 2016

      Albums
      John G. McGuire on Uncle John McGuire
      John G. McGuire on Uncle John McGuire (4)
      This is a transcription of the biographical notes contained in John Jay Dickey's (1842-1934) Baptist Minister's Diary. The statement from John G. McGuire helps to clarify that the son of James "Blue Lick" McGuire who was named "John McGuire" is not the same person as John McGuire (1756-1837) of Floyd & Morgan County.

    • Notes 
      • Attention World!!!

        John McGuire (born 1756) is not the son of James McGuire (who died at the Battle of Blue Lick). This is the son of James "Blue Lick" McGuire.

        Making a statement like this is almost sacrilegious among many descendants of John McGuire (b1756), but if you believe in needing facts to back up your decisions as they relate to our ancestors, please disregard what a dozens of other websites might say, and accept the fact this John McGuire (born 1756) is not the son of James ?Blue Lick? McGuire. Please read on to see the documentation.

        James ?Blue Lick? McGuire did have a son named ?John?. That is where the confusion comes in. He was about the same age as John (b. 1756). After James was killed in the Battle of Blue Lick, several of his children and his widow lived out their lives in Kentucky near Booneville.

        The first documentable piece of evidence about John (son of James) McGuire comes from the testimonial written down by John Jay Dickey as he interviewed John Guyer McGuire in the late 1800?s. John Dickey, a Baptist Minister, recognized at the time that an enormous amount of Kentucky history was going to be lost as many of the old-timers were getting up in age and passing away. So, he began a diary in which he interviewed hundreds of people. Their stories were captured in his diary which was over 6,000 pages long. On pages 2,397 & 2,398 is the interview of John G. McGuire.

        John?s father was Archibald McGuire, son of James ?Blue Lick? McGuire. Among other things that are described in this interview is a clear statement about his ?uncle John? [brother to Archibald and son of ?Blue Lick]. Uncle John moved to Greenup County and reared a large family. THAT is the son of James ?Blue Lick? McGuire, not John McGuire who moves to Montgomery/Morgan County. [See complete interview and documentation above].

        The next piece of documentation that establishes John (son of James) McGuire as living in the Greenup County area is found in a newspaper article published in Richmond Kentucky in 1889. [See copy above] The article describes how the graves of Margaret (widow of James ?Blue Lick?) and those of other family members had to be relocated. This takes place in/near Beattyville, which is just north of Booneville (consistent with where John Guyer McGuire described the family as living). The article briefly describes the family members, but clearly states how John (son of James) had moved to the Little Sandy River area. This is in/near Greenup County, Kentucky, again consistent with the description from John Guyer McGuire. This, again, puts John (son of James) in Greenup County, not in Montgomery/Morgan County, where John (born 1756) had moved.

        The final pieces of information that further corroborate the fact that John (son of James) was not John (1756) is found the 1800 Kentucky tax rolls, the 1810 and 1820 census data. [See copies shown on this website] In the 1800 tax rolls, John (son of James) can be found in Clark County, while John (1756) is in Montgomery County (later changed to Morgan County). In the 1810 and 1820 census data, John (son of James) is found in Greenup County, consistent with John Guyer McGuire?s testimony and the 1889 news article. John McGuire (1756) is listed again in Montgomery County (later to become Morgan County).

        The data above should be more than enough to persuade folks that John McGuire (1756) is not the son of James ?Blue Lick? McGuire. The other piece of logic that I offer to further solidify this position comes with John?s (1756) application for a Revolutionary War Pension in 1834. Clearly, John did fight in the Revolutionary War and he was very much a part of serving in the same company of soldiers who lost their lives at Blue Lick. John, himself, did not fight at Blue Lick, but he was a member of the militia who went after the Indians and chased them into Ohio. In his application [See copy of application attached here], John explains all the events that surrounded his involvement, who his officers were, and where they were located. If John?s (1756) father (or brother) had fought and died at Blue Lick, I cannot imagine that he would not have included that in his application. He did not. Of course not, because it was not his father who had died. John?s application was approved and he did receive his pension.

        Because so many other websites have shown James ?Blue Lick? McGuire as the father to John McGuire (born 1756), it will always be a challenge to get people to alter their perceptions and to change the names in their own family trees. However, I hope that the above will be enough for those who prefer actual documentation over the erroneous family trees that are posted all over the Internet.

    • Sources 
      1. [S1078] Ruth Eager Moran Family Group Sheets.

      2. [S1815] Kentucky, Tax Lists, 1799-1801.

      3. [S1814] 1810; Census Place: Greenup, Kentucky; Roll: 6; Page: 275; Image: 00294; Family History Library Film: 0181351 .

      4. [S1817] 1820 U S Census; Census Place: Greenup, Kentucky; Page: 175; NARA Roll: M33_21; Image: 188 .

      5. [S1817] 1820 U S Census; Census Place: Greenup, Kentucky; Page: 175; NARA Roll: M33_21; Image: 188 .


      6. [S1816] 1830; Census Place: Greenup, Kentucky; Series: M19; Roll: 37; Page: 74; Family History Library Film: 0007816.

      7. [S1816] 1830; Census Place: Greenup, Kentucky; Series: M19; Roll: 37; Page: 74; Family History Library Film: 0007816.


      8. [S1077] U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900.
        James McGuire & Elizabeth Black


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